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Re: Chances of conceiving naturally with 2% morphology?

Postby Amouna87 » Tue Jan 13, 2015 2:06 pm

Hey avaya
I think IUI from what I read can work if everything else is ok- hubbys count is only 18million/ml and he had 4ml so around 72million total- so on the low side- anything above 20mill is what i was told was normal. I'll see what my dr says on Monday- will ask him if its worth doing IUI or straight to IVF/ICSI...hope not cuz we are gonna go private and its like £8000 here! Probably same in US too I'm guessing...

Hope ur HSG is clear hun, let me know how it feels (I'm ready to hear the real pain level lol so I can mentally prepare!) but hope its not too bad pain wise...

Sorry AF showed. Mine will be here a week on friday most likely urgh xxxx
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Re: Chances of conceiving naturally with 2% morphology?

Postby Rhondalynn77 » Tue Jan 13, 2015 7:27 pm

The sperm washes away the immobile sperm,, not the bad shaped ones, and fragmented dna can be in normal shaped sperm from my understanding.
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Re: Chances of conceiving naturally with 2% morphology?

Postby avaya » Thu Jan 15, 2015 11:47 am

Wow, I am learning so much! I hope that the IUIs go well for all of us! Sorry to hear about the burn Rhonda :(

I finally got AF so I am waiting for the nurse to call and confirm my appointment. It should be next Thursday as that's the only day that will fit their requirements. I asked the person on the phone inquiring about the IUI cost and she was able to give me some informal numbers since she said it varies with what type of IUI my dr wants. I'm guessing the medicated process? I'm very happy to hear so far though that I just pay the office visit copay $15 and the procedure cost $120. She wasn't sure what labs I would need so couldn't confirm costs for that but I recall labs are free under my insurance plan so the cost is sound really good! If we had to use donor sperm, we would pay $36 for them to thaw the sperm and obviously however much it cost from the sperm banks. Now I'm hoping we can just do it this cycle even if unmedicated!
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Re: Chances of conceiving naturally with 2% morphology?

Postby Amouna87 » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:37 pm

Omg avaya thats such a good price! Is it covered by ur insurance (sorry if thats already been asked lol!) its gonna cost me £1000 a cycle :( but thats because we would go private- the waiting lists are sooo long for IUI on the NHS in UK- I'm so excited for you!!!! And praying I follow not to far behind u :) xxxx
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HSG Feb 15: All good


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Re: Chances of conceiving naturally with 2% morphology?

Postby avaya » Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:35 pm

Yep, most of it will probably be covered by insurance. I remember looking up cost and seeing $1500 US as the average. I do remember when I initially booked an appointment with the dr they asked for my insurance number to see what is covered and told me I had good infertility coverage lol. I remember looking it up under my plan too and the only cost I had seen was $15 office visit copay. Everything was a no payment. I'm still waiting for the nurse to call me about my appointment..but I believe HSG will be no cost too. I sure hope so! I've seen some ppl on this site saying it cost them $1k. When I spoke with my dr and she mentioned IVF she did say it cost about $15k so I wonder if I asked the nurse if it would be a different cost.

I had no idea you had to be on a waiting list! I thought each clinic/hospital just did it. I'm sorry :( That sounds so long!
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Re: Chances of conceiving naturally with 2% morphology?

Postby Amouna87 » Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:02 pm

Oh thats so good i really hope it works for u (and me!) first time :) yrah, waiting lists are crazy- downside of free healthcare i guess but if we go private it shouldn't have a waiting list seeing as we're paying lol! I wish i could get it for nothing but i'm too impatient lol!!

Do you know if hsg is on a specific cycle day? I have my appt on monday but no clue if thats a comsultation or actual HSG and if it is is HSG i need to mentally prepare lol!! I assumed it was consultation then he will book me for hsg but now not so sure- i am so incredibely scared about it like omg i am so so bad with pain and i dont know how i'm gonna cope with this :( especially as the person doing it is a man!! And egyptian lol so i told hubby don't speak ANY arabic when we go or french i don't want him to know we speak his language and then he gets all friendly with me whilst doing a flipping HSG haha! Urgh omg when its done I'll be so relieved- now I am also freaking out about the results like imagine he says my tubes are blocked - I never really considered it before I just thought of it as a routine thing but now its coming closer I'm really starting to think :( I don't know what I would do if we had blocked tubes AND 2% morphology :( I think I would just want to do IVF at that point...

Anywaus hope everyone is doing well :) xxxx
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DH- Low morphology (2%) & slightly below average count (18mill/ml) everything else okay

HSG Feb 15: All good


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Re: Chances of conceiving naturally with 2% morphology?

Postby avaya » Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:08 pm

haha Amouna, I hope that he does everything smoothly! HSG is done on CD7-10 from what I know. That's the requirement from my dr and hospital. Since it's an xray they don't want to risk damaging a possible fetus. I was told that we cannot DTD starting from CD1 to avoid any possible chances of conception and I actually have to get bloodwork done the day before HSG to confirm that I am not pregnant.

I hope that paying will speed up that process! It would be weird that they take money and still take their sweet time haha

I really hope it is not painful. I didn't think it would be when my dr was explaining it. She said there will be some cramping but nothing crazy. I so hope so! I plan to work that day! Gotta save my sick days for the IUI days :)
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Re: Chances of conceiving naturally with 2% morphology?

Postby Rhondalynn77 » Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:17 pm

avaya, sounds like you have good coverage, I do to, thank the Lord.

amouna, good luck with your hsg, i would take some ibuprofen before going. From what I have heard, its a bit painful during the procedure, but after its not bad. I have also heard that your chances are better after an hsg. :) sucks that the wait for iui is long.

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PCOS 1500mg Met. Male Factor: 1% Morph prob due to type 1 diabetes

Nov 4 100mg Clomid (1 egg)-BFN
Dec 14 100mg Clo (1) and IUI-BFN
Jan 15 100mg Clo (1) and IUI- BFN
Feb 15 150mg Clo (2) and IUI- BFN
March 15 delay:cyst. Bravelle (FSH) Inj Cancelled: Cyst
April 15-Natural: BFP!!!
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Re: Chances of conceiving naturally with 2% morphology?

Postby avaya » Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:52 am

Yeah so glad the insurance coverage is a lot better than I thought! HSG is scheduled for next Thursday. Time to abstain from DTD. Nurses order :)

Good luck Rhonda! FX that this is it!! I really want the IUI to work for us low morph folks :)
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Re: Chances of conceiving naturally with 2% morphology?

Postby Rhondalynn77 » Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:20 pm

hi ladies, the iui went well we had 60% motility compared to 30% last time. we abstained for 5 days before and ended up with a larger quantity also. They dont count at the office because that requires another type of certification. but hopefully one good one will meet the eggy!

avaya I am glad you have your hsg scheduled! fx everything is fine!

amouna, let us know how monday goes!
Me: 37, Rhonda
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:angel: early m/c 2/12
TTC since June '13

PCOS 1500mg Met. Male Factor: 1% Morph prob due to type 1 diabetes

Nov 4 100mg Clomid (1 egg)-BFN
Dec 14 100mg Clo (1) and IUI-BFN
Jan 15 100mg Clo (1) and IUI- BFN
Feb 15 150mg Clo (2) and IUI- BFN
March 15 delay:cyst. Bravelle (FSH) Inj Cancelled: Cyst
April 15-Natural: BFP!!!
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And He shall give you the desires of your heart."
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And lean not on your own understanding;
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Re: Chances of conceiving naturally with 2% morphology?

Postby Amouna87 » Sun Jan 18, 2015 3:33 am

Woohoo rhonda- let the countdown begin! :) reallly hoping it works for u this time, i have a good feeling about it :)

Avaya good luck on hsg- let me know how it is because I'm dreading it!

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DH- Low morphology (2%) & slightly below average count (18mill/ml) everything else okay

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Re: Chances of conceiving naturally with 2% morphology?

Postby avaya » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:03 pm

That's great news Rhonda! Hoping one of them spermies made it!

Amouna how was the dr's visit? I've been calm about the HSG but right before this thread, I read someone else's HSG experience and she said it hurt. Ahhh!! I plan on having dinner guest that night and working full day so I seriously want this experience to be painless! I'll definitely let you know how it goes.
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Re: Chances of conceiving naturally with 2% morphology?

Postby Amouna87 » Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:07 pm

Good luck rhonda!!

Avaya- i know i'm terrified too :( gonna take some cocodomol an hr or so before- i'm dreading it! Hope its easy on both of us and shows clear tubes!!

I, had my dr appt and he told me to call for my hsg between day 5-15 of my cycle which will be next friday- AF isn't usually gone by cd5 so will hopefully book it in for later- am absolutely TERRIFIED! The whole experience of seeing the fertility specialist just threw me yesterday that's why I haven't been on the boards- I came out of there and just burst into tears at the unfairness of it all...the fertility part of the clinic was bang in the middle of the maternity ward as well so all I see is pregnant women or women who have just given birth- was so tough- more than I ever ever thought it would be. I'm just praying SO hard that my hsg isn't painful and more importantly that my tubes are clear...on a positive he also told me that hubbys SA results were good and that 2% morphology didn't mean anything due to the difficulty in measuring morphology it always comes out worse than what it really is- his exact words were "i am happy with your SA you have good numbers and forms are a bit low but that is the least important and a normal morphology ranges from 4% upwards so its really not an issue" which is obviously great to hear but at same time makes me think for sure the issue is me.....urgh just wanna get this flipping hsg done!!

Hope you're all good ladies- 9dpo today and poasing since 6dpo on cheapies but all bfns- I knew they would be but I guess a part of me hoped that I would get my bfp before the hsg so i wouldn't have to have it done :( I've rejoined weightwatchers to lose a few pounds to take my mind off my soon to arrive af so lets see how that goes...

Rhonda any symptoms yet??

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Me: So far so good thank God
DH- Low morphology (2%) & slightly below average count (18mill/ml) everything else okay

HSG Feb 15: All good


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Re: Chances of conceiving naturally with 2% morphology?

Postby avaya » Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:28 pm

I'm sorry to hear Amouna :( I was lucky my dr's office is at a different location and off to the side so I didn't run into pregnant women. I hope that your tubes are clear too! I'm still assuming it is the 2% morphology that is causing issues. Did you dr have you scheduled to do bloodwork? Mine required me to do like 14 different types of blood work to ensure everything else was okay. I wish they had let me do an HSG from CD5-15. Our window is only CD7-10 which made me miss the last cycle since it landed on Xmas day and office was closed! Boooo. I recommend you do it around CD7 too. They wanted me to do it after AF is all done but before I ovulate. I've ovulated as early as CD12 so I would recommend you do it before you usually ovulate since the xray will hurt a possible fertilized egg. Were you told to refrain from DTD?

I think everything will be fine Amouna! I have faith in our tubes!
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Re: Chances of conceiving naturally with 2% morphology?

Postby avaya » Thu Jan 22, 2015 1:52 pm

How is everyone feeling?

I wanted to update on the HSG experience :)

I'm happy to report that I am all clear! The process was practically painless! I think it helped that the technician has years of experience and there was a nurse next to me asking me questions to distract me from what technician was doing but the tech was still explaining what she was doing so I wouldn't freak out with any movement. They were all very kind and soothing. The dr came to introduce himself and then they went to work taking a bunch of pictures. He came back and showed me my tubes. He said everything looked good. Honestly, my tubes look different than I pictured it! It looked like a maze! I always thought it was like those pictures of our tubes just curving to the side like eyebrows lol but it was going back and forth. Now I feel bad for hubby's lil spermies. They do have to go through an obstacle to reach that egg! May the odds be ever in your favor :P I had very light cramps almost like a murmur of it and I was leaking dye and some blood but they said that was normal. Have a liner in but at least we have all the tests done and know it is just the morphology issue. Now I'm really hoping we have good luck when we do the IUI. We are still doing a natural route this cycle since we don't get to see the dr till 2/6.

Any surprise BFPs for us? :)
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