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Help please question about MC

Postby Amanda0713 » Thu Oct 01, 2015 12:02 pm

Hello everyone,

I have been stalking this page for quite some time now, and just became a member. I can usually find other threads and comments that help me and make me feel better, but time I decided I need to post and ask for advice.

A little bit of my history: I have a 2 year old son. I knew several people with trouble TTC, so we stopped preventing just a little bit earlier than would have been ideal, and low and behold, I get pregnant the first try. That pregnancy was easy, I had almost no symptoms (which at the time I thought was great, lucky me). Then, about a year ago, we started ttc #2. When I say trying, at first we just weren’t preventing really, and I thought it would happen immediately, like it did the first time. After about 4 months went by I got concerned, which I realize is ridiculous, but #1 was so fast. So I starting doing OPKs and reading all about CM, and basically stalking this site. First month using OPKs, I got pregnant again. I thought great, I probably just didn’t ovulate around the average time, and everything is ok after all… Wrong. I thought the fact that I wasn’t having symptoms, was just like my first pregnancy, and lucky me, right?...Wrong.

I started spotting light and brown around 7 weeks. I was terrified and devastated. I called my doctor, and she said that brown blood is old blood, and doesn’t usually mean a problem, and since I had my regular 8 week scan in a couple days, just come in for that. The spotting started to get a little more red in color, but was still very light. So a couple days later I go in for my scan, just knowing its bad news, but it wasn’t bad news. They told me that my baby was exactly the right size, that it’s heart beat was normal, and she didn’t see any bleeds in my uterus, so she thought the bleeding might be done. The doctor said she couldn’t “promise” me that I wouldn’t have a MC, but that everything did look great, so I should try to relax.

Two days later, it was all over, I had passed everything from my body. I even went in for a scan two days after the first one, and it was all out. Doctor said most likely its just one of those things, something with the baby probably not compatible with life. She said they don’t really investigate the cause, if it’s me or not, unless I have multiple losses. She advised my husband and I to wait three full cycles (not counting the MC bleed, so 4 months) so my uterus lining can get thick again before trying again.

So this cycle was our first ttc since. I used OPKs, found out when I O’ed and BD’ed a lot. Now I am in my tww, and I am so scared. I thought my biggest issue and question would be how to handle the stress and fear if I did become pregnant again, but I have read those threads on here, and seen everyone’s advice. And that does help, so thank you, even though it won’t make the fear go away.

I realize now what my real question is, what I REALLY want advice on. All the stories I can find on here or anywhere else about other people’s miscarriages, went something like, ‘went in for a scan and baby was way under expected size or didn’t have a HB, and then they had to wait forever to all pass’. I started bleeding while my baby still had a HB, and it was gone completely 2 days later. Did anyone who has had a MC (and to all of you I am so sorry, it is the worst, ever) have it as quick as mine, especially with a confirmation that everything was fine right before? Did you find out what caused the MC? Do you think it’s possible still that something was wrong with my baby, or do you think that points to something being wrong with me? I feel like my body just kind of got rid of it, but I don’t know if I am right or if that is just my fear.

If I am pregnant, or will be soon, my doctor doesn’t see patients until 8 weeks, they don’t bring you in to check levels or anything of that stuff, unless you have multiple losses. But I don’t want to let it happen again…

Thank you all so much for your help, advise and support <3
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MC at 8 weeks June 2015
BFP 10/06/15
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Re: Help please question about MC

Postby Amanda0713 » Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:46 am

Well I just got my BFP this morning, excited but very scared. I called my OB and talked to a nurse and she said depending on doc, they might be able to check my levels early, but according to her, even detecting a hormone problem wouldn't help to stop anything. I told her I knew supplements wouldn't stop a non viable pregnancy from misscarrying, but if a miscarriage was only due to my hormones wouldn't it help? And she said not really but maybe???? So the MA is going to talk to my dr and see what she wants me to do. Fx, hoping this one is sticky and I don't have any problems of my own.
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Re: Help please question about MC

Postby southernbelle » Tue Oct 06, 2015 3:00 pm

Sorry about your loss. Did they ever do a progesterone draw? That's an easy fix if you have low progesterone. I'd ask if they can do a draw to be sure. That won't prevent a non viable pregnancy, but if everything else is good and your progesterone is just low it should help.
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Re: Help please question about MC

Postby Amanda0713 » Tue Oct 06, 2015 3:29 pm

They did not check it when I had the MC. And they don't normally either, they just bring you in at 8 weeks for an u/s. I called today and asked about coming in for blood work and the nurse kind of made it sound like that if you have low levels there is still no preventing a MC, and I explained that I know it wouldn't stop a non viable pregnancy, but I'm concerned the pregnancy was fine and my hormones weren't. Now I am waiting for a call after the medical assistant speaks to the dr. Hoping they bring me in for the tests, and if levels are low, that they would be willing to do something about it.
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Re: Help please question about MC

Postby Amanda0713 » Tue Oct 06, 2015 3:35 pm

Just got a call and I go in tomorrow and then Friday. At first she only wanted to do the hcg to see if I'm pregnant, and I was like "no I know I'm pregnant I'm worried my levels are low, so I want progesterone too..." And she just said "ok, we should be able to do that too" ugh! Happy I'm going in tomorrow and hoping they really do run that test.
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Re: Help please question about MC

Postby southernbelle » Tue Oct 06, 2015 3:46 pm

Wonderful! Good luck to you! Keep us updated with your betas once you get the results. :)
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Feb 2014 Baby Girl :babyg:
Feb 2015 missed miscarriage @ 8 weeks (Vitex)
Apr 2015 miscarriage @ 6 weeks (Vitex)
Jun 2015 hysteroscopy
Aug 2015 failed IUI #1 (Femara, Follistim, Ovidrel)
Sep 2015 chemical pregnancy (Vitex)
Oct 2015 500mg Metformin, Baby Aspirin, 100mg Clomid cd 3-7 - Round 1
Nov 2015 500mg Metformin, Baby Aspirin, 150mg Clomid cd 3-7, Follistim cd 8-11, Ovidrel
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Re: Help please question about MC

Postby Amanda0713 » Tue Oct 06, 2015 4:30 pm

Thank you! I know nothing about the numbers other than im worried they are low, so I will definitely be posting :)
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Re: Help please question about MC

Postby southernbelle » Tue Oct 06, 2015 4:34 pm

Your doctor will confirm whether you're in need of progesterone supplements. As far as hcg, don't worry about the initial number. It may be 13, it may be 67, as long as it's doubling by the next draw you're good!
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May 2013 :bfp:
Feb 2014 Baby Girl :babyg:
Feb 2015 missed miscarriage @ 8 weeks (Vitex)
Apr 2015 miscarriage @ 6 weeks (Vitex)
Jun 2015 hysteroscopy
Aug 2015 failed IUI #1 (Femara, Follistim, Ovidrel)
Sep 2015 chemical pregnancy (Vitex)
Oct 2015 500mg Metformin, Baby Aspirin, 100mg Clomid cd 3-7 - Round 1
Nov 2015 500mg Metformin, Baby Aspirin, 150mg Clomid cd 3-7, Follistim cd 8-11, Ovidrel
Dec 2015 500mg Metformin, Baby Aspirin, Vitex, Preseed, Mucinex :bfp:
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Re: Help please question about MC

Postby Amanda0713 » Wed Oct 07, 2015 12:00 pm

I just realized based on my LMP my due date is exactly the day I lost my last baby, one year later. I don't know how to feel about that...
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Re: Help please question about MC

Postby southernbelle » Wed Oct 07, 2015 3:39 pm

Crazy! Second chance maybe??

Mine are all over the place and I still grieve. ugh
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Feb 2015 missed miscarriage @ 8 weeks (Vitex)
Apr 2015 miscarriage @ 6 weeks (Vitex)
Jun 2015 hysteroscopy
Aug 2015 failed IUI #1 (Femara, Follistim, Ovidrel)
Sep 2015 chemical pregnancy (Vitex)
Oct 2015 500mg Metformin, Baby Aspirin, 100mg Clomid cd 3-7 - Round 1
Nov 2015 500mg Metformin, Baby Aspirin, 150mg Clomid cd 3-7, Follistim cd 8-11, Ovidrel
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Re: Help please question about MC

Postby Amanda0713 » Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:42 pm

Hoping second chance and not a bad sign... Like I wasnt worried enough already. Sorry you've had to deal with that multiple times. I can not begin to image, just one was truly horrible. Thanks for sticking out this thread with me :) I'm so scared, I've taken like 10 hpts and an opk, which is not great because I don't get mine on the Internet, so.... $$$. I got the hcg and progesterone blood test today, doing the other hcg on Friday, results next week. Thanks again, and I'd be happy to be your sounding board if you need one, although I think you are way more knowledgable than me :)
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Re: Help please question about MC

Postby southernbelle » Wed Oct 07, 2015 5:50 pm

Thanks. After a while you just kind of go numb and try again. It's very frustrating though. When I got pregnant with dd I was terrified. I had a chemical just before her. It was really hard to let go, but that's all you can do. Try your best to think positive vibes. I really do think baby can feel it.
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Mar 2013 chemical pregnancy
May 2013 :bfp:
Feb 2014 Baby Girl :babyg:
Feb 2015 missed miscarriage @ 8 weeks (Vitex)
Apr 2015 miscarriage @ 6 weeks (Vitex)
Jun 2015 hysteroscopy
Aug 2015 failed IUI #1 (Femara, Follistim, Ovidrel)
Sep 2015 chemical pregnancy (Vitex)
Oct 2015 500mg Metformin, Baby Aspirin, 100mg Clomid cd 3-7 - Round 1
Nov 2015 500mg Metformin, Baby Aspirin, 150mg Clomid cd 3-7, Follistim cd 8-11, Ovidrel
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Re: Help please question about MC

Postby Amanda0713 » Thu Oct 08, 2015 7:24 am

Im going to try really and think positively. That has always been hard for me, no matter the issue, so its especially hard with this. Also my cheapie hpt was not darker this morning, it was about the same as 24 hours before and slightly lighter than 12 hours before :( and my frer was about the same if optomistically a TINY bit darker than 36 hours before. I just need to calm down until I get my blood results. I keep telling myself if i had seen these hpts before, i would have wanted the blood work and I am already doing that, so I am already doing everything i can. Its out of my hands. :|
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Re: Help please question about MC

Postby southernbelle » Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:20 am

I know the waiting is the hard part. Remember internet cheapies aren't always the most reliable when it comes to "progression". Also, hcg is supposed to double every two days so you might not notice a difference from the day before especially if taken during different times.
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Mar 2013 chemical pregnancy
May 2013 :bfp:
Feb 2014 Baby Girl :babyg:
Feb 2015 missed miscarriage @ 8 weeks (Vitex)
Apr 2015 miscarriage @ 6 weeks (Vitex)
Jun 2015 hysteroscopy
Aug 2015 failed IUI #1 (Femara, Follistim, Ovidrel)
Sep 2015 chemical pregnancy (Vitex)
Oct 2015 500mg Metformin, Baby Aspirin, 100mg Clomid cd 3-7 - Round 1
Nov 2015 500mg Metformin, Baby Aspirin, 150mg Clomid cd 3-7, Follistim cd 8-11, Ovidrel
Dec 2015 500mg Metformin, Baby Aspirin, Vitex, Preseed, Mucinex :bfp:
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Re: Help please question about MC

Postby Amanda0713 » Fri Oct 09, 2015 9:04 am

So at 4w0d based on LMP (I think Im actually one or two behind that based on opks) My hcg was 83 and my progesterone was 19.8. Still waiting for the results for the repeat draw (hopefully later today), and the dr had not even seen my results yet, but the nurse showed me the paper while getting my blood drawn.

I know the HCG doesnt really mean anything until i see if it doubles or not. How does the progesterone sound to you? The slip from the lab says normal for 1st trimester is 8.8-48.6, but I have read some stuff that says over 10, some stuff that says they want over 15, and that 20 is good. Hopefully since its almost 20, Im ok there. Just need to wait for the hcg to come back. FX

Funny story at my appointment, that I cant tell anyone besides DH since nobody knows... The nurse that drew my blood on wednesday was awesome, I was in and out in 5 minutes flat. This time, the girl that was there today, struggled alot. She went into my left arm, and moved the needle around for like 5 minutes, couldnt find the vain, then tried my right arm, still fished in there for like 5 min, then tried my left again, another 5 minutes of fishing, and THEN she tried the top of my hand, fished for another 5 minutes and still nothing!!! She was so panicy, and I kept telling her "I'm fine, its ok, dont worry, it doesnt hurt" but she just couldtn do it. So her aunt works at a womens clinic across the street, so I had to go over there to get my blood drawn, which was very weird to tell the girl at their front desk. That nurse got it on the first try in like 30 sec, so I don't think I have bad vains or anything. Then I had to hand deliver my own blood back over to my OBs office! :doh: I'm not mad, I'm happy to get these tests in the first place as I had to fight for it, but wow what a day. I officially look like a total junkie, as I bruse from needles lol
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