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Postby potatoesandwaffles » Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:23 pm

I know you are not supposed to steam during lp when tcc, that is why my husband and I are officially trying not to get pregnant until June because from what I've researched, for what I am trying to accomplish, doing a vsteam right before AF is due is best. Along with right around O. so that is what I am going to do.
I did a steam a few days ago with some herbs I had on hand (oregano,rosemary and red raspberry leaf) my husband wanted to know why I smelled so funny. :D
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Postby SAKS2 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 4:00 am

"... my husband wanted to know why I smelled so funny."
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Postby vanjust14 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:06 am

Hello ladies! I am not a blogger but I am a LTTCer so I hope you don't mind if I join :)

My DF and I have been TTC since September of 2012. We decided to TTC shortly after meeting mostly because of my age (35 at the time). We tried for a year before going to see an RE. At first, all of my testing came back normal (HSG, CD21 bloodwork) but DF's SA was not so great. He had normal count, borderline motility, and low morph (2%). He has a varicocele but we haven't really looked into it more as he did not have insurance and the RE recommended we do IUI right away. Plus, he has two children from a previous relationship so I figured how bad could it be? Our diagnosis at that time was unexplained. I started to have anxiety about the IUI and ended up canceling. We tried 5 months of letrozole and timed BD with no success, and then went on to try naturally for another 6 months or so. Someone on this wonderful site pointed out that my RE never did CD3 bloods and that there was no way they could just give me an unexplained diagnosis without it. My OB ran the tests for me and low and behold my AMH was low at .59 and my FSH was high at 12. So back to the RE I go and with this new info I am diagnosed with diminished ovarian reserve :( I was devastated. They said my eggs are equivalent to that of a 42 year old and that time is of the essence. My progesterone was still really great so they said I am ovulated fine, it is just that my eggs are probably not good quality. At the RE's recommendation, we tried an IUI with injectables this past November and paid for everything OOP. I responded really well to the FSH injections and had 3 follies. Unfortunately, DF's SA was even worse and after washing we had 8 million sperm. The IUI was not successful. Now here I am waiting for some new insurance to kick in Feb 1st that will give us fertility coverage. Not sure where to go from here. RE wants to try IUI again. She said it was like playing the lottery, but IVF is so much more involved and invasive that she thinks I should gamble on one or two more IUI's first. Oh, and she also said DF needs to go see a urologist, so we will definitely do that in Feb when we have the insurance.

In the meantime I have tried softcups, preseed, maca, royal jelly, Coq10, red raspberry leaf, acupuncture, and I 'm sure some other tricks I can't think of at the moment. I'm pretty sure our problems go way beyond these things but hey, I like to think that miracles can happen.

Sidenote: NEVER heard of a vsteam and will now be looking into this!!!

I also want to say I am very sorry to those of you who have suffered a loss. I can't imagine the heartbreak on top of the stress of LTTTC. My heart goes out to you...
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Postby vanjust14 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:14 am

orangecat wrote:Good day ladies

Laura-fx the second SA works for you. I found that the times I helped my DH with his samples his numbers were better :omg: and he didn't feel as pressured. Lol.


mt2sea wrote: Studies shown the more aroused and relax he is you may get better quality and numbers.

I never even thought of this, but DF's second SA was worse and this was after eating healthier and taking vitamins. I couldn't understand it but the second time he produced the sample in the office as opposed to at home like the first time. I am definitely going to help him at home for this next one in Feb. Thanks!
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11/16/14-11/23/14 75iu Gonal-F injections + trigger
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Postby mamabear1 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:30 pm

Hi ladies. Finally i am back here! Great to read what's been happening for you all - it's great there is so much chatter here and i feel i can get to know you all a bit better :D

This is my 16th cycle ttc #3. I never ever dreamed it would take this long. I turned 40 in Sept and have low ovarian reserve (i don't know the exact number as they don't provide you with your results here - i am going to ask for them at my next appointment). My husband is a lot older than me and we have two precious children already. I have been desperate to have one more child for several years but my husband has not. It has caused us a lot of difficulties, and still does. He is still not wishing for another sadly but eventually said he's willing to try for my sake. It is a very ugly situation to be in and far from ideal. Anyhooooo..enough about that.

I am currently 8dpo and feeling quietly optimistic. My chart is keeping me hopeful but my hopes have been burnt many times before so i am try to keep my emotions level.

I had a saline hsg back in June last year (all clear) on cycle 9 and conceived that very cycle. I was elated! I saw the heartbeat at my first scan but baby was measuring behind. My next scan at 8wks showed the hb had stopped and measurements were still off. I eventually mc naturally at 10.5wks. Absolutely distraught i was. Didn't know how i could go on.

I had another hsg 11 days ago but this time i had the real deal using iodine and the big fancy scanner. It showed everything to be fine but there were some signs of my age.

So i sit here waiting and wondering. I have no idea when i will be testing. I guess it depends on how long i can hold off. The longer the better.

On a non ttc topic - today i am having family over to celebrate "Christmas -take2!". We were unable to celebrate with family on Christmas day as 3 of us had a head cold so we couldn't be near a relative who is undergoing chemo. So we quarantined ourselves at home. Quietest Christmas for my littlies ever :(

So i've done lots of baking, now just have to tidy the house. We've had very hot days lately (up to 37deg) so i think we'll all be in the pool or air-conditioning. It's such a stark contrast to what you Canadian folk are experiencing. Orangecat i cannot even imagine what those temperatures feel like!!

Have an awesome day ladies. X
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Postby orangecat » Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:47 pm

Welcome Vanessa! And nice to see you here mama bear and get your full story.

TTC is the craziest emotional rollercoaster I have ever been on. I am ready to move on and get my BFP and take home rainbow more than ever.

Had a day 10 follicle scan today and they want us to repeat on Monday CD 13 so my follies must not be ready yet. Femara side effects have subsided and I haven't had a single alcoholic drink this cycle. Only going to do TI as I just don't see IUI working out. It isn't worth the added stress of driving 3 hours each way and missing work for a slightly better chance. I don't really have a good taste in my mouth for the only clinic in our province. Our first IUI my lining was brutal and I had a Clomid cyst. My second they did a scan and I had already O but they did it anyway. Some days I really feel this fertility game is just a money grab.

If we move to the IVF stage it is going to be a big endeavour and one we will shop around for a clinic for. Sadly that is a long way off as this work week has been incredibly stressful and I don't know how long I can stay in my current job...the plan was to get out on my one year maternity leave and change careers. Now I just don't know....:(

Mama- where do you live that it is that hot in January? Definitely a stark difference from here:) But the last few days have been a heat wave here -5C!
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Postby mamabear1 » Sat Jan 17, 2015 12:34 am

Orangecat - lol..I'm in Brisbane Australia. I looked up your hometown in an atlas as i was so intrigued by your weather. Feel like we are at different ends of the Earth :o
It is so frustrating when you can't make normal plans because of ttc. Are you thinking of moving from your job because you dislike it or because of other circumstances. That's hard if you have to continue on if you really dislike it.
That clinic doesn't sounds like it's got your best interests at heart. I felt that when i had a consult last year with a fertility specialist and he mentioned ivf but discredited every other approach or effort i was making. He even said sperm count can't be improved - which i now know is bollocks.
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Postby vanjust14 » Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:28 am

Orangecat, I hear you on the whole money thing. My RE literally said doing IUI was like buying a lottery ticket. That didn't make me feel better because the odds of winning the lottery are so slim, yet you have to pay the price no matter the outcome. Good luck at your scan today. I hope you have some nice big follies from the femara. Hopefully you won't have to move to IVF but if you do, I agree about shopping around. You definitely need a clinic that you feel comfortable with and is on your side. Good luck!

mamabear, I have diminished ovarian reserve as well. Did they say if they think that is what contributed to your mc? I'm so sorry for your loss, I can't imagine. I hope you had a nice second Christmas :)
Me: (Vanessa) 37
DH: 31
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TTC since Sept 2012, Dx: Diminished ovarian reserve with mild male factor

08/13-12/13 5 rounds of 5mg Femara=BFN
01/14-10/14 relaxed cycles=BFN

11/16/14-11/23/14 75iu Gonal-F injections + trigger
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Postby orangecat » Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:24 am

GRRR...so follicles are still not ripe. Which seems strange to me as I've been having O pain and EWCM! Going for another scan on Thursday CD 16. I'm hopeful I'm building a nice thick healthy lining and that is why it is taking some time! But also....I typically O CD 14-16 on a non medicated cycle. So who knows!

How are the rest of you doing?
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Surprise BFP April 18/2014 while waiting for IUI!
Natural miscarriage April 29/2014 - 6 weeks
IUI #1 50mg Clomid and 24 mil sperm July 4/2014= BFN
IUI #2 letrazole 2.5mg Aug= CANCELLED due to cyst and midcycle bleed
IUI #2 letrazole 2.5mg Oct 7/2014= BFN
2015 NOTHING
2016 New RE gives us hope
April 19/16 Ectopic Pregnancy while waiting to begin IUI again
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Postby kelley21 » Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:47 pm

I can't say I've ever heard of Vsteaming either! I need to find time to read up!
Sorry about your follies Orangecat- I bet they will be ready next US. Do they not tell you the size of them?
I hope your HSG brings you a sticky bean mamabear!

AFM- I think my thermometer is pooping out so I did not get good temps and exactly on O days. I had +OPK CD 12 and 13 and late 13 had terrible O pains- but my temp was 97.0 on CD14. Then it has barely risen to 97.4. Never happened before. I would place my cover at 97.3. Guess I'll stop and pick up a new one on the way home.
Karyotyping and a menagerie of labs scheduled for next Monday and then RE follow up is not until FEB 16!!!! I can't believe we have to wait so long, but I suppose in the scheme of things we already have waited that long and longer.

Hoping for BFPs soon ladies :)
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Postby mamabear1 » Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:12 pm

Hi ladies, how is everyone going? How are those follies Orangecat? I'd be thinking them same - the longer it takes the bigger they're growing.

Vanjust - i wasn't given a reason as such for the mc but i know the statistics aren't in my favour at my age. So i'm guessing it was an egg quality issue. I also had a SCH though so that may have contributed - it's hard to say.

Kelley - i'm with you on the waiting for appointments. I have started going through a natural fertility clinic through our public health system and all i do is wait. I'm not expecting a lot from them but i have my 2nd appointment tomorrow so will see what they say. Good luck with all the testing on Monday - at least you're moving forward.

Well very sadly i believe i am out this month - bfn again (13dpo today - af due in 3 days on Sunday). My temps are vety slightly starting to curve down so i know what to expect. I am feeling so sad as i felt out of the many many months, this one seemed the most promising. Everything was different and i even had a very clear dip followed by a rise at 9dpo and had bb tenderness for the last few days (which is late for me). I just don't know what to do. I probably need to start acceptinv this is not going to happen for me, but i just don't know how to let go without crumpling into a huge mess. The grief for me would be i tolerable.

Sorry - not in a good place today.
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CGH testing on 1 day 6 embryo = abnormal.
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Postby orangecat » Thu Jan 22, 2015 11:18 pm

Sorry Mama: ( You have a nice long LP so maybe just maybe you aren't out....

Repeat US today showed a 16mm and a 14mm follicle with a healthy 12mm lining! BD all thru the weekend and hope for the best. For those of you that have taken femara did you find you O later than normal? I usually O CD 14-16 without drugs and I won't this cycle until CD 18-20...

Anyone else with an update?
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"Unexplained Infertility" diagnosis Feb 2014
IUI- planned for May 2014
Surprise BFP April 18/2014 while waiting for IUI!
Natural miscarriage April 29/2014 - 6 weeks
IUI #1 50mg Clomid and 24 mil sperm July 4/2014= BFN
IUI #2 letrazole 2.5mg Aug= CANCELLED due to cyst and midcycle bleed
IUI #2 letrazole 2.5mg Oct 7/2014= BFN
2015 NOTHING
2016 New RE gives us hope
April 19/16 Ectopic Pregnancy while waiting to begin IUI again
Right tube removed
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Postby kelley21 » Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:20 am

Mamabear I wish I had words of wisdom to lift your spirits, I'm sorry you are feeling so down. My first child was an oops, and I never dreamed TTC would be so difficult and emotional. I never thought my children would be 10 years apart. I am finding it impossible to let go, to stop obsessing and I feel tears coming every time I stop and think about this struggle. I haven't had a meltdown in a couple months thank goodness. Sometimes it gets to the point that I just cry and cry, the devastation and longing become overwhelming at that moment.

Vanessa- how many IUIs are you planning? Will you switch to IVF? The cost is phenomenal and I am not sure we would go tht way. I don't like to finance and with us just buying a new house it would take us a couple years to save up.

Orangecat! Yay for good follies! Get busy BDing! Both our losses were conceived with heavy BDing in fertile time, like 5x in less than 72h. It's really hard to keep up that pace with work and kid. Those fertile times fell on weekends DH and were alone Fri-Sun. I haven't ever taken Femara without having a trigger, so afraid I have no advice to give. My monitored cycles cost $1250 without IUI, so we give another $400 for IUI to give an extra % chance instead of just timed intercourse.

I am 5-6dpo, not expecting anything as DH was on nights and only one BD session before O. I have learned to crochet so I have lots of projects keeping me busy. Hopefully this year I will get to make a blanket for MY new baby :)
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Postby orangecat » Mon Jan 26, 2015 8:34 am

Well we managed to BD 3 times in 48 Hours over the weekend. Going for one more good luck BD tonight! Then another 2WW......
I swear I felt my right ovary O last night around 8PM so if the eggie is still sticking around one last time after work today won't hurt.
I agree Kelley our MC cycle we DTD 4/in 4 days. More is better despite what they tell you about EOD.
DH is almost convinced to try IUI one more time if this cycle is a bust. Then we will start looking into IVF...adoption has always been in our hearts as well as my SIL is adopted. But it seems like it can cost up to 4 IVF cycles! Yikes. Why when there are so many unwanted babies out there?
I started acupuncture again on Friday. And I also went for a massage. Anything to help:)
And I also saw a resident doctor at my GP's office on Friday. I went hoping to talk about future options and what she would recommend moving forward. As luck would have it she was pregnant! As soon as I started talking about my infertility she was noticeably uncomfortable and tried to hide her belly. Jeesh. Like I couldn't see it! I left no better off than when I arrived. I was just looking for a little bit of hope.
Hope you all are well on this fine Monday!
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"Unexplained Infertility" diagnosis Feb 2014
IUI- planned for May 2014
Surprise BFP April 18/2014 while waiting for IUI!
Natural miscarriage April 29/2014 - 6 weeks
IUI #1 50mg Clomid and 24 mil sperm July 4/2014= BFN
IUI #2 letrazole 2.5mg Aug= CANCELLED due to cyst and midcycle bleed
IUI #2 letrazole 2.5mg Oct 7/2014= BFN
2015 NOTHING
2016 New RE gives us hope
April 19/16 Ectopic Pregnancy while waiting to begin IUI again
Right tube removed
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ME AMH 4.4PMOL (British scale)
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Postby vanjust14 » Mon Jan 26, 2015 10:12 am

orangecat, when I was on the femara I O'd closer to CD14, as opposed to when I am off it I can O as early as CD11. I know a couple of other girls who also claim they O later on the femara as well. So glad to see your follicles got nice and ripe and you were able to get all that bding in! I never usually BD that much because of DH's male factor issues, but ne cycle we BD like 6 days in a row. It didn't work obviously, but I figured it was worth a shot to try something different! I agree with you about adoption...there are so many who need homes you think the cost would be a little more affordable. I didn't realize it cost 4 times IVF, yikes!

kelley, I am not sure if I want to do one more IUI or two. I may just move to IVF after one more IUI. I feel like I am running out of time and I'm not too confident IUI will work after the first failed attempt. However, I am really scared of IVF and suffer form anxiety so I'm not sure what I will do. My RE did say before we move ahead with anything DH has to have another SA and consult. He only had 8 mil sperm post wash for the IUI :-/. I totally understand what you said about not imagining your children being so many years apart. My son is 16 and I am still not pg and everyone says I am crazy for "starting over" when I am "almost done". Of course, I would have liked them closer together but I am not going to let that stop me from having another child. I'm so sorry you have had such a hard struggle with it. I hope it all is worth it once you hold your new baby in your arms, which WILL happen :) How do you like crocheting? I keep saying I want to learn but I never do. Is it easy? I really need to motivate myself to try it.

mamabear, how are you feeling today? I hope you are okay, I know how devastating the moment you know you are out feels. :( I'm sorry if you have already said this, but will you or have you tried IUI? Even with my diminished ovarian reserve my RE is confident I can get pg either with IUI or IVF. I'm trying to hold on to that hope even though it isn't easy!
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TTC since Sept 2012, Dx: Diminished ovarian reserve with mild male factor

08/13-12/13 5 rounds of 5mg Femara=BFN
01/14-10/14 relaxed cycles=BFN

11/16/14-11/23/14 75iu Gonal-F injections + trigger
11/24/14 IUI #1=BFN

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