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Sun Aug 27, 2017 5:06 pm
I do have some symptoms that are sometimes associated with low progesterone- cracked heels, brittle nails, and some others. If you have low progesterone, that can cause estrogen dominance, even if your estrogen levels are normal. I also read an article about what your period can tell you about hormones. Light periods and pink bleeding can indicate estrogen problems. It's not enough that I'm convinced I have any issues, but it's made me wonder. My OB is willing to put me on progesterone ASAP if I do get a bfp. He said he would mainly do it because it can't cause any harm and would make me feel better, but he didn't think it would make a difference with mc. That surprised me because I've read they give it regularly in some European countries and have seen the rate of mc drop dramatically. I don't know if that's my problem, but I'm certainly going to try it!
Sun Aug 27, 2017 5:07 pm
Oh, and I know a few ladies who use clomid and Mucinex. But I understand why you'd only want to change one thing at a time! And if you're seeing ewcm on your own, that's great! Fingers crossed for this cycle!
Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:14 am
I am surprised your doctor didn't seem to think the progesterone would work? from everything I have seen also it appears to be helpful in regards to mc's. Is that something that you start even before you got a Bfp just to err on the side of caution (especially if it won't hurt things anyway)?
I think i decided to hold off on mucinex this cycle and just stick with the pre-seed and my own EWCM. I still have a high reading this morning, last cycle I had 3 days of high before my peak- so I am hoping I have that or a peak tomorrow would be nice. Still feeling crampy and bd'ing was uncomfortable again :/ the only way I can describe it is that my insides literally feel bruised. It's so weird because at no other point in my life other than the past year has my body ever felt anything in regards to ovulation- just weird!
Did you get your positive this morning?! If so, yay for the TWW (but boo at the same time because I know how it drags lol).
Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:10 am
Yep, my temp jumped this morning, so I'm officially 1dpo! I feel weird about this cycle. I was expecting it to be a good one, since it's cycle 3 since my mc, but then the missing ewcm threw me off. Nothing to do now but wait I guess!
And yeah, I was a bit disappointed in my doctor's response to everything I asked at my last appointment. It seemed like it would be easy enough to check progesterone after O, but he said anything like that needed to be done by an RE. He's the only doc left at the practice now and he's in high demand around here with a heavy patient load (and was even when there were several other doctors there), so I'm wondering if he just focuses on the basics and refers the more complicated cases to a specialist. But still... Kind of annoying because I know from being on here that plenty of OBGYNs are willing to look into that stuff.
Anyway, I posed the question: "So hypothetically, assuming the progesterone WAS going to make the difference, do I need to start it right after ovulation, or just if I get a positive test?" He said the timing doesn't matter and that he'd prescribe it once I got a BFP. I have read other places that you need it earlier, but I do have progesterone cream I can use until I get the prescription filled if I suspect I'm pregnant this cycle.
As for your O pains, I had a few cycles this last year where O was downright painful. I was SUPER bloated and BDing was the last thing I wanted to do. The pain would get worse and worse the few days leading up to O, until it hurt to bend over or reach my arms up/stretch my stomach. If I pressed on my belly it felt like my ovary was about to explode! I have no idea why it would happen, and it hasn't for several months now. If it's happening regularly, I'd mention it to your doctor. When I read up on it, I didn't get much of an answer, but several sources said while many women feel it, ovulation should not be painful.
In my research this cycle about hyperovulation, I read that on a cycle you are releasing multiple eggs from the same ovary, everything can be more intense. The dominant follicle/corpus luteum can be about an inch in diameter at the time of ovulation. So imagine two of those on the same ovary, possibly pushing against one another! It said you may experience extra bloating as well. That made me wonder if maybe that's what happened to me.
Anyway, I hope you are able to bd without too much discomfort. I actually really hate bd around O. I know you're supposed to want it more around then, but I just don't! It's just stressful for me lol.
Mon Aug 28, 2017 9:57 am
Happy to hear that you are now in the TWW! I hope to join you in the next few days
maybe the weird feeling and not the norm pre-O is a good thing. I feel like sometimes it's the cycles where everything seems to go wrong that many people get their BFP.
I hear you on it being frustrating that the gyno wasn't more helpful. If it helps the only testing my gyno did on me was my thyroid- she referred me to the RE and he was the one who suggested the progesterone tests. So maybe it's just something that some gyno's don't do? In terms of the progesterone I have read some conflicting things- I have see a couple of articles that said the cream doesn't do squat. as I have never used it personally I couldn't say one way or the other if it helps but provided it doesn't hurt, it's worth a shot!
Yes I have been searching around for painful ovulation and uncomfortable bd'ing during ovulation as well. It seems like ALOT of people experience it. I did mention it to my gyno back in December and she seemed unconcerned and just said it was mittelshrmetz (sp?). If it continues though and there is no BFP in my immediate future I will definitely bring it up when I see the RE again. Now you have me wondering if I am releasing multiple eggs each cycle though ha! I was not monitored via u/s for this round of clomid but if I am bumped up I may ask to be- just so we get a clearer picture of what's going on in there lol. Maybe I am releasing extra eggs- twins do run in our family.
Yes, I feel the same way- I see these articles that say I am supposed to feel in love and extra excited around O time and all I can think of is how much it feels like I am getting punched in the uterus each time we do it- not exactly a turn on lol- glad it's not just me though
Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:07 am
Definitely not just you.
I read that you have to use at least 4x the amount of progesterone cream that it says on the box to make a difference. Since I'm sure it will take a day or two to get the prescription filled, and only after a definite bfp, I figure I can start slathering it on if I start seeing hints on a test (although I'm going to try my very hardest not to test until 10 dpo).
Tue Aug 29, 2017 4:34 am
That makes sense about the cream - hopefully it will do the job if you use it
good luck holding out until 10dpo- I know by the time I have gotten to like 8 dpo it is a mental struggle to not test but I end up getting AF like 2 days later each time and for whatever reason this easier to handle than a BFN.
Still have a high reading on digital this morning - although the LH line is significantly darker ( the two lines are almost the same - last cycle the day I had peak they were exactly the same like on a cheapie) but on my cheapie a it's still negative - I will test again with cheapie this afternoon and check for a difference. Last cycle I had a high for 3 days then peak on day 4 and the past few cycles I had 4 days of cramps and got my positive on the 4th day each time. Tomorrow will be day 4 so I am
Hopeful I will follow that pattern and have my peak tomorrow. Of course hubby is going out of town on Thursday night ( he will be back Friday) but I already told him we either need to BD Thursday am
Before he goes to work or he needs to stop home before he leaves so we can squeeze it in- I am not messing around this cycle lol.
I know you are only 2dpo but feeling ok on your end?
Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:47 am
I'm feeling fine... Still really bloated, which normally subsides pretty quickly after O, and I have one sore nipple, which is kind of weird lol.
Did your regular opk look like it was darkening up even though it was negative? I would guess tonight it tomorrow you'd get your positive if so, since LH is produced in the morning and doesn't show up in your urine until mid day. I bet you're close! And I love that you're not messing around this cycle (or messing around a lot
). That was my attitude the cycle I got my first bfp this year. When AF arrived, I just decided I was going to make it happen that next cycle, and it worked! Fingers crossed your hard work pays off!
Tue Aug 29, 2017 4:34 pm
Haha- isn't it weird how our bodies feel sometimes? I swear I have learned more than I ever deemed necessary about my body in the past year !
My cheapie OPk this morning was still light, when I tested at 3:30 it was definitely darker than this AM but still not super dark- I will test again before I go to bed and I will be curious to see what it looks like then. I am just really praying that I get my positive tomorrow because I am just ready haha. I feel like I am always either waiting to O or waiting to POAS or for AF. Kinda over waiting lol this is probably silly but when I got pregnant with my son it was on Labor Day weekend- and I just happen to be o'ing right around Labor Day weekend again- so I am hoping it will prove to be a lucky weekend for me again
I hope you continue to feel good in the TWW! Keep me posted so I can live vicariously through you a few days
Tue Aug 29, 2017 5:26 pm
Haha, I love your labor day superstition. I have one of my own... I got my bfp with Henry on Veterans day, then my bfp in January on Presidents day. So I have this thing about bfp's on obscure holidays. The last one I got on National Doughnut Day lol. I haven't even looked this cycle to see what's coming up around testing time!
Ok, just looked it up. I'll miss labor day by probably 2 days. National Salami Day is the best one from 10dpo lol.
I still feel really off. Since the weirdness started before O, I'm not going to feel confident that any tww symptoms mean anything! I have tons of creamy cm today, though. I'm normally really dry following O. I'm only 2 dpo though, so it would probably mean nothing regardless!
Hopefully you get that peak reading tomorrow! I have had months where my opk got gradually darker over a few days before O and cycles where it went from super negative to positive in the same day. Anything is possible!
Wed Aug 30, 2017 2:53 am
Well, ready to cry over here... Still getting a high reading :/ so of course now I have myself all convinced I am one of those people that gets like a bunch of highs and won't actually peak/ O on clomid ... Ughhhhh not the way I wanted to start my day today!
Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:08 am
Aw bummer. Don't assume the worst yet! I believe you were worried about never getting a peak reading last cycle, too, but you eventually did! Hopefully tomorrow!
Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:30 pm
I was freaked out last cycle too haha, but by this point last cycle I already had my "peak". My cheapie opks are no darker today than they have been so I am not getting a good feeling about getting a peak tomorrow either :/ I just feel like something has to happen soon- my cramps have been consistent (just like they have been every other cycle before O), and my CP is super high, soft, and very open. Still getting EWCM so I guess all we can do is keep bd'ing and hope for the best. My cd21 blood work is next Tuesday so I guess that will determine the next steps.
How are you feeling?
Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:00 pm
That's got to be annoying! I really hope your just a day or two out. It's great that you're seeing ewcm. Get busy and hope for the best!
I'm finally feeling pretty much back to normal. This O was just weird. Now there's not much to do but wait...
Thu Aug 31, 2017 3:33 am
Crisis averted! Woke up to the "peak" reading this morning. Of course we didn't BD last night (but did every night for the 4 nights prior and we did this morning). I was exhausted after my first day back at work and bd'ing was just not in the cards. Hoping that skipping a day won't end up being a big deal. My temp also randomly jumped this morning ? From 96,73 to 97,37 this morning- I am hoping it's just because last night was the first night all summer we didn't have the AC running . I wouldn't have o'd before a peak reading right?! I mean I know clomid can do some weird things ...
I hope your waiting game goes well today- glad you are feeling more normal
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