What counts as cycle 1?

Support for anyone experiencing a miscarriage or looking for support from others who have been there.

Moderators: unaffected, JessM, southernbelle, maddy

What counts as cycle 1?

Postby B Michaelson » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:24 pm

So I had my laparoscopic salpinectomy on wednesday and spotted the next day. Friday I started bleeding with clots and then it got heavier so it seems I am shedding my lining. I was told to wait 2 cycles before TTC again. I was also told the first bleeding is not AF its part of the loss process now that my hcg dropped/disappeared. So when do I start counting? Now that I am bleeding would I be on cd 2 of cycle 1 or do I have to wait for another bleed (actual AF) after this and count that as cycle 1?

I don't really see the difference between AF and this loss bleeding unless its just semantics...
Me - 36
Hashimotos, JHS/EDS, ANA negative, 1 Fallopian tube
DH - 41
TTC #1 Aug 2012 - May 2014
DS - Born Jan 2015
TTC #2 since Aug 2016
May 2017 :bfp:

:angel: Our Angels :angel:
2004 - 7.5 weeks
Oct 2013 - 6w6d ruptured ectopic
Jan 2014 - Chemical

Image

Image

Image
User avatar
B Michaelson
Girlfriend
Girlfriend
 
Posts: 3746
Joined: Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:14 am

Re: What counts as cycle 1?

Postby B Michaelson » Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:04 pm

I forgot to add the dr told me to wait for 2 REAL cycles, which is why I am thinking maybe this one might not count.
Me - 36
Hashimotos, JHS/EDS, ANA negative, 1 Fallopian tube
DH - 41
TTC #1 Aug 2012 - May 2014
DS - Born Jan 2015
TTC #2 since Aug 2016
May 2017 :bfp:

:angel: Our Angels :angel:
2004 - 7.5 weeks
Oct 2013 - 6w6d ruptured ectopic
Jan 2014 - Chemical

Image

Image

Image
User avatar
B Michaelson
Girlfriend
Girlfriend
 
Posts: 3746
Joined: Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:14 am

Re: What counts as cycle 1?

Postby shellsbellsxx » Sun Oct 20, 2013 3:54 am

i counted the first day of my loss as cd1 - and i got a positive opk 1 day later than i would normally get it so figuring everything got back to normal fairly quickly once the process started. obviously i didn't have major surgery like you did but i'd be counting the first day of bleeding as Cd1 x
Me:37 DH:43
LTTTC #1 for 13 years
(16.10.12)... Diagnosis - 'Unexplained Infertility'
:doh:
Short 22/23 day cycles, LPD- 10days
23rd September 2013 - BFP - MC 5wks 2 dys 1st Oct '13

6th May '14 6th and final clomid cycle 2-6 50mg - :bfp: (8/9dpo)

7th July '14 - ultrasound #1 @ 9+1 - TWINS! 2 beating hearts :hb: 9+3 :hb: 8+6
31st July '14 - ultrasound #2 @12+4 - 2 beating hearts and bouncing babies 13+4 :hb: & 13+2 :hb: measuring a week ahead!
19th Sept '14 - 20+5 Baby A :future baby boy: & Baby B :future baby boy: - All looks perfect!

14th January 2015 my Babies were born - Samuel Stuart 6lb 5oz and Oliver Michael 5lb 2oz

Image
User avatar
shellsbellsxx
Girlfriend
Girlfriend
 
Posts: 2775
Joined: Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:00 am
Location: UK

Re: What counts as cycle 1?

Postby B Michaelson » Sun Oct 20, 2013 4:13 am

Thanks Shells.
Me - 36
Hashimotos, JHS/EDS, ANA negative, 1 Fallopian tube
DH - 41
TTC #1 Aug 2012 - May 2014
DS - Born Jan 2015
TTC #2 since Aug 2016
May 2017 :bfp:

:angel: Our Angels :angel:
2004 - 7.5 weeks
Oct 2013 - 6w6d ruptured ectopic
Jan 2014 - Chemical

Image

Image

Image
User avatar
B Michaelson
Girlfriend
Girlfriend
 
Posts: 3746
Joined: Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:14 am

Re: What counts as cycle 1?

Postby radkitten » Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:28 am

It's just semantics. Once you started bleeding I would count it as CD1. Ovulation might be delayed due to the surgery. I had my first official AF 6 weeks after my lap. I also had my right ovary operated on though, so that might have affected my ovulation.

How come they are making you wait 2 cycles? My RE cleared me to try again after my first AF.
Me (31) - Homozygous MTHFR A1298C, Endometriosis, Left Fallopian Tube removed
DH (33) - Normal
Married - 09/09/09

First ever :bfp: 5/6/13
5-17-13 - D&C and ectopic pregnancy removal at 5w5d. Lost left fallopian tube. Right ovarian cyst removed.

Aug 2013 - 1st clomid cycle (50mg CD3-7). 5 follies, missed ovulation, timed intercourse. BFN
Nov 2013 - Jan 2014 - Follicles all on the left.
Feb 2014 - 5mg Femara CD3-7 - Cyst on left ovary, 18mm follie right ovary! Trigger 2/20, IUI 2/22 BFN
October 2014 - IVF #1. Retrieval October 22nd?


Image
User avatar
radkitten
Girlfriend
Girlfriend
 
Posts: 680
Joined: Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:16 am
Location: Stow, Ohio

Re: What counts as cycle 1?

Postby SEPT2014 » Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:26 am

Hi ladies, b i hope you don't mind if i hijack your thread? :oops:
So i am going to my doctor this week for a chat and maybe some help with my constipation and haemorroids (sorry tmi) since surgery my poor bowel has gone on holiday somewhere :roll: :rofl:
I want to talk to my doctor about waiting to ttc and my cycles because mine is a strange situation iykwim. My surgeon never spoke to me after my miscarriage and laparoscopy so i need answers.
I had a heterotopic pregnancy, twins; one in uterus and one in right tube. I had miscarriage of uterine pregnancy on 12Jan13, had been spotting + bleeding for 12 days before this. So i got a AF bleeding from the 12th due to miscarriage, for about 6 days or so, very heavy, but this wouldn't be classed as "proper" AF am i correct? This AF was almost finished when i had my laparoscopy so i barely bled at all after the surgery, think my lining was already gone. I am due next AF around Valentines day :| so would this be my first proper AF? And anyone got any advice how many proper AF should i wait. I am healing well from the surgery now physically, would it be too early to ttc after my valentines AF? :oops: :shh: i dont want to push things too early after surgery, i guess there could be scar tissue in there. I know the doctor will advise, but you can't beat advice from the real ladies on here :kiss:
Me: 38, DH: 42 - TTC No. 1 since Oct 2013
Image
My Ovulation Chart

Image

MC twin A 12.01.2014 @ 6w6d
Emergency Lap on 16.01.2014 @ 7w3d Twin B (ectopic) & ruptured right tube, left tube ok

May 2014 - CP/MC 5w+3, numerous chemicals since

Metformin (PCOS), bromocriptine(elevated prolactin)
April 2015 HSG - normal uterus and left tube fine
Nov 2015 - investigative hystero & D&C - normal
March 2016 - Start IVF+PGS - our last hope :omg: :love:
Day 9 : 11 measurable follies - egg retrieval March 2016 :omg:
8 eggs selected for fert by icsi - 8 x fert.
Day 5: 5 embryos for PGS biopsy & freeze.
PGS (ngs)results: 2 x normal & 3 x abnormal
FET June 2016 1 x PGS normal blast transferred :omg:
Trust your gut instincts.
Bfp July 2016 - please stay around little one :hb:
SEPT2014
Girlfriend
Girlfriend
 
Posts: 1536
Joined: Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:03 am

Re: What counts as cycle 1?

Postby B Michaelson » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:42 am

SEPT, we got the go ahead after 6 weeks (the day of O actually). I think the big hurdle was being emotionally ready though. I was told 2-3 months but I think as long as you are healing ok and feeling ok they often give you the green light earlier. I would say you need at least a month after surgey to heal internally though.

I was really constipated after my surgery too. Drink lots of water. I made the mistake of not doing that and it really hurt.
Me - 36
Hashimotos, JHS/EDS, ANA negative, 1 Fallopian tube
DH - 41
TTC #1 Aug 2012 - May 2014
DS - Born Jan 2015
TTC #2 since Aug 2016
May 2017 :bfp:

:angel: Our Angels :angel:
2004 - 7.5 weeks
Oct 2013 - 6w6d ruptured ectopic
Jan 2014 - Chemical

Image

Image

Image
User avatar
B Michaelson
Girlfriend
Girlfriend
 
Posts: 3746
Joined: Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:14 am

Re: What counts as cycle 1?

Postby SEPT2014 » Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:37 am

Thanks b :D , I thought you had got the go ahead sooner than expected. Yeah the constipation is horrific, they never told me this would happen :omg: it seems like it is never going away and being on iron tablets for a month is making it worse. They said my haemaglobin got real low. Great, will get the doctor's opinion too.
Me: 38, DH: 42 - TTC No. 1 since Oct 2013
Image
My Ovulation Chart

Image

MC twin A 12.01.2014 @ 6w6d
Emergency Lap on 16.01.2014 @ 7w3d Twin B (ectopic) & ruptured right tube, left tube ok

May 2014 - CP/MC 5w+3, numerous chemicals since

Metformin (PCOS), bromocriptine(elevated prolactin)
April 2015 HSG - normal uterus and left tube fine
Nov 2015 - investigative hystero & D&C - normal
March 2016 - Start IVF+PGS - our last hope :omg: :love:
Day 9 : 11 measurable follies - egg retrieval March 2016 :omg:
8 eggs selected for fert by icsi - 8 x fert.
Day 5: 5 embryos for PGS biopsy & freeze.
PGS (ngs)results: 2 x normal & 3 x abnormal
FET June 2016 1 x PGS normal blast transferred :omg:
Trust your gut instincts.
Bfp July 2016 - please stay around little one :hb:
SEPT2014
Girlfriend
Girlfriend
 
Posts: 1536
Joined: Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:03 am


Return to Miscarriage, Ectopic, and Pregnancy Loss Support