42 - Waiting and hoping -- IUI/clomid -- ADVICE? STATS?

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42 - Waiting and hoping -- IUI/clomid -- ADVICE? STATS?

Postby Possum » Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:40 pm

Hi - I'm new here. I just turned 42 and he's 34. We tried for a year to conceive on our own without success. (Ummm - big surprise, right?)

Waiting to test is really hard - lol! I've never been so depressed by a period than when we stopped using birth control.

Once we saw a doctor, she prescribed clomid (50 mg), trigger shot and IUI. We got a BFP first time out but I miscarried early (right around first heartbeat time). Other than my being old, we really didn't find a reason we didn't conceive before from all the tests they did (they came out fine).

This is our second cycle with 'help' (clomid, trigger, and IUI). The doctor said it looked like two 'ready' follicles this time. I double-ovulated last time too (we had to do an ultrasound to check on things) but I'm so ignorant about all this stuff....

Anybody know what the typical 'target' number of released eggs is for an IUI? From my reading two seems low but I'm on the lowest possible dose of the first-line med. (Which I keep reading is not the preferred med for someone old like me but I don't know what to think of that.) I know with IVF they want to retrieve _lots_ of eggs but this is IUI. My doctor doesn't seem concerned about 'low' ovulation - yet, anyway. (I don't want multiples or anything _CRAZY_ - was just wondering if I'm 'underperforming.')

Anybody know of a source with stats on IUI success rates after an IUI miscarriage? Everything I read is about 3 or 6 cycles IUI and then to stronger O meds (injectables etc.) and/or on to IVF. But if we managed to get pregnant but miscarry before I don't know if that's 'success - keep doing that' or 'failure - try something else' or 'could be either one - you're just so damn old.' (I guess I'm thinking the latter.)

Thank God my doctor doesn't seem to dwell too much on my age. I honestly thought they would sit me down, talk to me about donor eggs and pretty much refuse to take me as a patient unless I agreed to donor egg IVF. (I am still worried this is where it's gonna go and not sure what I'll do in that case.)

Well I'll be happy to hear from folk. I have another week before I should be testing and I think it's going to be a really long week....

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Postby ~layla~ » Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:30 am

i dont know about the stats, but i just wanted to tell u there is hope! i got pg when i was 41 and 9 months. there are a lot of ladies that have got pg in their early 40s. i have seen quite a few here. u arent that old yet! dont give up your dream, keep trying and hopefully it will happen for u very soon. :)
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Postby kierann » Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:35 pm

Hi Possum, I am 40 and closer to 41 now. I have a 9 month old baby girl I conceived on my second IUI attempt. My first attempt was on clomid and I had 3 good size follicles at time of trigger. Problem was clomid thinned my lining too much. RE thought it should be okay at time of ovulation if I took some estrogen tabs for a few days prior to IUI. Well, that time failed and I think it was my lining because my AF that cycle was super light. Well, next IUI was with femara and then a few days of injectables. I produced 2 good size follicles and ovulated on my own. No trigger needed and got pregnant. My lining was so much thicker too on the femera. So, I say if this clomid does not work for you then go for the femera. I have read on here where it seems to work better for our age. Good luck!
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Postby ~layla~ » Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:43 am

yes, i got my bfp on femara also.
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bfp on aug 9, 2009 at 13dpo.
1st femara cycle.
8th cycle ttc
1st beta 17dpo-159
2nd beta 22dpo-694
3rd beta 31dpo-24,600
no longer ttc. im blessed with my tww baby and here to cheer everyone on.
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Same story here- would love to chat with someone

Postby brdwaybabytoo » Sat Sep 24, 2011 7:45 am

I just had 2nd IUI fail. I did make eggs but it just didn't work. I am noticing now that I have period that there is a very big difference. Not to be too graphic but blood is not as thick, etc.

I want to more aggressive....maybe trigger Ovulation, etc... switch to femara?

It has only been two times so am jumping the gun. I turn 40 in April and am single. Every time I do this, I have to use donor sperm which is expensive. Luckily medical is covered.

I am doing this alone and have really no one to talk to about it. If anyone also would like to shoot the breeze about this stuff. Reply and I can send you my email. It is hard to talk to people who are not going through it.

Thanks, Shar
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Postby Fittblonde » Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:03 pm

Shar...I would switch to injectables such as follistim and IUI. It is more aggressive and you will create more eggs each month. I started IUI last year at 41 and got pregnant on my first follistim cycle (created 3 to 4 follicles) Unfortunately, I miscarried at 6 weeks.
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Thanks

Postby brdwaybabytoo » Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:48 pm

Thanks... They upped the number of clomid pills I take in a cycle but kept it the same level (50 Mg). He said since I made 3-4 eggs he felt it was enough and there is no need to try anything else.
I will try it this way along with the trigger shot and see what happens.

Good luck to you...

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BFP - unbelievable! But I really hope I don't lose...

Postby Possum » Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:42 pm

Thank you all for the good wishes. GOD BLESS YOU! I think they must have worked!!!! :o

IUI +1 worked but I miscarried. Try # 2 and tonight (1 day early) I got a digital test and it says YES+! (I sure as hell hope they are accurate.)

Very happy but much more nervous this time around. I'm 42 and have no children - this will be our first if he/she somehow makes it. I can't believe our good fortune on just a low dose of clomid and IUI.

Soooooooooooo worried - the odds don't seem very good from here. Truly TERRIFIED of the Beta tests to come...now that I understand better what they are for. I am finding it hard to imagine it will work out -- a long long journey ahead. :(

But I am very very thankful - no matter what.

If you pray, pray for us! :praying:

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Postby Neeve » Tue Sep 27, 2011 11:28 am

Yay on the +ve test.....and soo early too! = good sign! :jump:
I had my healthy daughter when I was 42 and am now 45 and have just got a +ve....soo keep up the hope!
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Postby ~layla~ » Tue Sep 27, 2011 11:13 pm

congratulations! i know betas are so stressful! they almost gave me a heart attack. i pray u make it thru ok. :)
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http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/laylalady/


bfp on aug 9, 2009 at 13dpo.
1st femara cycle.
8th cycle ttc
1st beta 17dpo-159
2nd beta 22dpo-694
3rd beta 31dpo-24,600
no longer ttc. im blessed with my tww baby and here to cheer everyone on.
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Postby Seelie » Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:56 pm

Just wanted to say a big congratulations for your :bfp: ! Also wanted to add some hope to all you ladies in your 40's that they do have babies. I have been doing my family genealogy over the last year and so many of the ladies in my family had babies well into their 40's. My Great Grandmother on Dad's side had her 1st and only child at 41. And another had 2 boys at 42 and 44.
On my Mum's side my Great Grandmother had my Grandma when she was 43 and another baby when she was 46. Her mother had her last child at 53!! Yes you read that correctly...53! He was a perfect child and lived until he was 97 years old. There were many others having babies up to their mid 40's and this was all naturally of course.
Despite all this wonderful family fertility history I find myself struggling to have a child....but it IS possible and does happen all the time....so we just have to hang in there. :D
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Postby Possum » Sat Oct 01, 2011 9:42 pm

Hey Seelie -

Hang in there - it will happen. Looks like we conceived around the same time and miscarried this summer.

While I am praying over betas (so far OK but a ways to go), I will say a prayer for October for you.

Thanks everyone for the good wishes - this forum is a godsend!
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Postby Seelie » Thu Oct 06, 2011 5:31 am

Thanks Possum. I hope a :bfp: will heals our hearts.

Also so to crash the 40's forum. I am turning 39 next week and feel more kin with you ladies than a 30yo.
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