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Late talker, too stubborn?

Postby BrunetteB » Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:44 pm

Very frustrated Mom here, haha :)

My son is 16 months and going through a rather stubborn stage. He says a few words here and there, no more than a handful and not putting two words together yet. I wasn't too worried about it until I started paying attention to what other children around his age can say. Apparently by 18 months they should be able to say "up to" 20 words. My DS isn't even close to that.

It's just frustrating because I KNOW he can say words and he just refuses to. This afternoon he wanted a snack and I asked him to say 'please'. It took a few tries and he finally said 'eee'. Good enough for me - he's trying!

Then this evening he wanted some juice. I asked him to say please again. And instantly he threw himself to the floor in a fit. I'm trying to hold my ground and not cave but it's SO hard listening to him cry when you know what he wants and can fix it. How tough should I be??? When do I give in? Is this normal for his age, any advice from you fellow Mama's??
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Postby Egray » Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:58 pm

Eh. I have twin girls that are 16 months old. One says about 35 words and the other 5. Lol!! Even my dd who talks more isn't saying 2 word sentences yet. I wouldn't worry about it this early.

Neither one of my DD's can say please so I have no advice there, I dont think I would push it if they could and wouldn't though this young. I would just keep on saying it to them and eventually they will get it.
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Postby Cayman4 » Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:46 pm

My DS is also 16 months and only says a couple of words. Don't listen to what they should be saying by now. Boys take longer to speak than girls. Have you tried sign language? If he's getting frustrated not being able to speak then maybe he could sign. DS is finally starting to try signs now.

I give DS what he wants if I know it. I can't imagine how frustrating it must be not to be able to communicate. Luckily DS isn't to that point yet. His doctor said that if he gets that way to let her know and the state will pay for him to get some therapy for it.
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Postby BrunetteB » Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:12 am

Thankyou girls :D Makes me feel a lot better about it. It is frustrating not being able to communicate, especially since I know he understands what I'm saying. If I say "okay time for a diaper change" he runs to his room and grabs a diaper. If I say "Lets go outside" He runs for his shoes. He just only talks when HE wants to. I'll lay off trying to get him to say words and just say them when I would like him to for a while. I've heard about sign language before, maybe I'll look into that too. Thanks again for the tips ladies!
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Postby KimmyH » Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:09 am

My DD is almost 14 months and not walking yet, and all her little friends are running around. I was getting a bit concerned and asked her pedi about it. He told me toddlers go in spurts of working on either their speech OR motor skills. Well, my DD is definitely in her speech stage and has a lot of words, but her only sentences are "Mama more cookies" and "go go bath time". :lol: I think little boys are just more physical than girls sometimes, and tend to work on motor skills before speech.
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Postby Cayman4 » Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:11 am

That's interesting Kimmy. My DS definately has great motor skills. He does so much that I'm surprised.
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Postby Lstar311 » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:29 am

At 16 months I would still give some leeway with the talking. They are still sooo young. I would definitely encourage it but probably wouldn't with hold something if he didn't say it yet. Just reinforce the words you want him to say all the time.
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Postby Egray » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:44 am

I agree with PP sign language is awesome. My girls sign eat, diaper, all done, drink, milk, and more. I think there's a few more but I can't think right now. Anyway, it helps alot.

And I started doing "show me" with the girls adn if they are frustrated or whiny they pull me to what they want and point now.
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Postby january » Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:27 pm

DD didn't start really talking until about 26 months or so (aka, 2 months ago, lol!). After we had scheduled a speech eval.

I started the eval process right after her birthday in the beginning of January. She was saying about 6 words and signing about another 6-10. The evaluation got pushed back multiple times because of a death in my family then some nasty snowstorms. It took about a month from when I first called to get her evaluated and in that time, she suddenly started talking! It was a little bit here and there but in the past two months so has added SOOO many words. She probably has 50 or so now, plus a handful of 2-word phrases.
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Postby victoria_1024 » Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:25 pm

He sounds EXACTLY like my son at that age, he could say maybe 6 words but only if he was repeating us (not conversationally), and he understood everything we said. We did end up doing speech therapy with him and he's doing great now. Says several full sentences and lots of 2 word sentences (btw, they don't need to be saying 2 word sentences until 24 months, definitely don't worry about that yet).

I wouldn't force him to say things yet (that's what the speech therapist told us) but label everything you do with one or two words. Instead of reading the story in his books to him, just go through the books and point out all the pictures and tell him what everything is.
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Postby babyhelstrup » Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:07 pm

I am glad you posted this. My LO is almost 15m and really does not say a lot at all. She says Hi and Hi Kitty (to just about every 4 legged animal). She makes a lot of noises, like she is trying but no words. But she like your LO she understands what you ask her. It is nice to hear that it is "normal". I'am tring signing but she does not seem to be grasping that much either... Gotta love the kids w/ their own schedule... Woo hoo!
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Postby bluedisc » Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:54 pm

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I would totally not worry about this...
My first son and I had a tremendous understanding of each other so we didn't seem to need a lot of words - he was a really early crawler and very dynamic, which slowed down speech development. At two and a half he was still only stringing two words together now and again, but by three and a half he was caught up to other children, and was speaking like a small adult by four....I started teaching him to read and do his sums at four, by five he could read all the little children's books by himself and do all the different sums into the tens....
DD didn't walk until 15 months, started saying lots by 16 months by which time she could also run and climb everywhere without ever falling down. She is a great talker but more prone to mispronounce words than the other two, and she's more interested in building and creating things than in letters and numbers so far (she's just turned four).
My second son didn't walk until 16 months, and was always falling down after he learned....he is wonderfully dextrous with his hands though....and despite being the dozy baby at the beginning - for at least six months - he has now turned into the best talker of the three, and talks much better than expected for his age - a lot of this is probably because he listens to his sister who is only 15 months older - only he doesn't mispronounce things. He also started talking a lot at 16 months, he's now two and three quarters and nearly everything he says is in complete sentences.
They are all bright children, but in totally different ways.
It's interesting to see just how different children are though in what they do when....if yours is up to all sorts of things, and not just sitting about with nothing at all going on, then things are probably going just fine:)
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Postby HH » Thu Apr 21, 2011 4:38 pm

My son was just like that too. He just turned 2 and now says around 70 words. Our speech therapist said to just keep putting the words in their head. Every time you give him milk say, "You want milk? Here's your milk. Sammy's drinking his milk." She said not to ask him to say stuff, because it will just frustrate him. If he could do it, he would do it, according to her. Another thing she said to do was to sing a familiar song and occasionally leave out a word to see if he would fill it in. My son is just starting to do this. Looking back, I really wish I hadn't worried so much. I honestly think the numbers (20 words at 18 months etc) they have are off for boys. I'm sure in another 6 months your son will be talking up a storm!
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Postby july » Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:08 am

My son is 21 months and we speak Bosnian to him we pretty much talk to him and tell him go bring me that or what not and he does it but does not want to talk to much he definitely can say more then 6 words and understand anything you tell him he repeats after you sometimes so far his favorite is if you say No, No to him he just repeats it back LOL but I am not worried at all he points to things he wants and if you tell him kiss Mickey Mouse his plush toy he does it or if you tell him give Mickey your pacifier he does it so I know he understands everything but if he is not ready to talk I wont force him.

My friends son who is 21months old too he talks maybe 75 words in his vocab u just say something and he repeats and he is very talkative but as far as that goes I wont force my son to talk more then he already does since he will do it on his own its not like he will not talk forever lol....I hope not.
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Postby Kozmik_burd » Mon May 09, 2011 11:02 am

january wrote:DD didn't start really talking until about 26 months or so (aka, 2 months ago, lol!). After we had scheduled a speech eval.

I started the eval process right after her birthday in the beginning of January. She was saying about 6 words and signing about another 6-10. The evaluation got pushed back multiple times because of a death in my family then some nasty snowstorms. It took about a month from when I first called to get her evaluated and in that time, she suddenly started talking! It was a little bit here and there but in the past two months so has added SOOO many words. She probably has 50 or so now, plus a handful of 2-word phrases.


wow I love this post. this make me hopeful my two year old will start speaking so much he'll be driving me crazy soon.
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