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Postby NatalieR » Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:37 pm

I'm looking at upgrading from our Canon Powershot P&S to the Nikon D3000 w/18-55mm lens. Has anyone started out with this camera? Would it be a decent camera to begin with? Any recommendations? TIA!! :D
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Postby laurab007 » Tue Jul 27, 2010 3:45 pm

That's a great starter camera. I have the D60, which I believe is the older version of this one. I really like it, but I'm ready to move up after 2 1/2 years. I think I'm going to upgrade to a D90 when they come out w/a newer version of that camera. I need to do more research, though.

The only recommendation I have is to buy the camera body separate from the lenses if you can. The kit lenses aren't the greatest and you can get a much better lens if you buy it alone. However, you do get a great deal on the kit and you can always upgrade your lens when you're ready if you're not happy w/it.
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Postby NatalieR » Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:04 pm

Thanks, Laura!

Actually, the camera w/lens is less than $400CDN and from what I've looked into, that pretty much covers the body only. I will eventually buy bigger and better lenses and then maybe even upgrade the body at some point - years from now, ha!
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Postby blue-eden » Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:01 pm

Do you mean the D3000 or the D300?

The D300 is the newer one, similar to the D90 but more expensive because the camera body is metallic.
The D3000 is the older model.
Here are the specs on the D3000
http://www.nikonusa.com/Find-Your-Nikon ... D3000.html
Here is a review on the D3000 from someone who reviews each and every Nikon piece of equipment. His reviews are usually spot on.
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d3000.htm

The 18-55 lens for Nikon is actually pretty good little lens. Super sharp. The only thing that you won't like if you use manual exposure is that it has a variable aperture (aperture changes as you zoom, which I really hate). BUT if you use it in on auto it's fine, or if you get really good at quickly changing your settings on manual. One of my favourite lenses is also variable ap, I have learned to tolerate it for it's otherwise awesomeness.

I would skip the D3000 actually, and go for a D40 -D70 range.
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Postby laurab007 » Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:22 am

Blue - aren't they getting rid of the D series? I noticed the D60 and D70 aren't on the Nikon website. I thought they replaced them w/the D3000 and D5000. My understanding is that the D40 is the entry level and the D3000 is the next one up, replacing the D60. :dunno:
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Postby blue-eden » Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:14 am

I think you're right Laura, it's not on the site. I was thinking of the D5000, which was before the D300s. The D3000 came at the same time as the D300s.

That would be weird to get rid of the D60, which has more megapixels than the D40, and the 3000 and 5000 are still just entry level consumer cameras. :dunno:

Do the 3000 and 5000 ones auto focus on all lenses? Is that the upgrade?

Ok, I just looked it up and the D3000 replaces the D40 as the "entry level camera" and still lacks the in-body auto focus motor. That means that you CAN'T autofocus with the more popular lenses, so I'd definitely skip it.

And the D5000 is supposed to be the lower level equivalent to the D90, with the video. And also doesn't autofocus, which the D90 does. The D70 does autofocus. The D3000 gets some pretty bad reviews compared to the other D series ones. I'd be on the lookout for a D40, and just get the body and buy a good lens. Or the D5000 seems to get better reviews.

Given all these choices, I'd still go with the D70, but it's a midrange, not entry level, consumer camera. You'd have to buy used, but that's what I'd do if I were looking for an intro camera. I have the D70s and it's a great camera, just has half the megapixels and only a few focus points compared to my D90.

I guess it just depends...where do you see yourself taking photography? If you plan to learn and grow, and want to get into portraiture, etc, then you would definitely want to upgrade soon beyond any of the consumer level ones, and it would cost you more in the long run. If you're just going to continue to shoot on auto, then it might not be worth it to upgrade from your point and shoot.

Sorry,I hope all my rambling made sense, lol. I'm currently looking into other Nikons, because I've had my D90 a year already, and *might* want an upgrade. But the only upgrades that are worth it will cost me too much to take the decision lightly.
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Postby NatalieR » Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:59 am

Thanks, blue!

What about the D80? I have a friend who wants to get rid of hers and is willing to sell it to me. Would that be a better purchase than the D3000? The whole point of upgrading from my P&S is to have the opportunity to learn and grow as an artist, so I don't want to be wasting my money on something that won't satisfy me or that'll need to be upgraded very quickly, kwim?
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Postby blue-eden » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:15 am

I would take the D80. It will autofocus with any lens. And trust me, you want the autofocus! I NEVER take my camera off autofocus when shooting things that move --- like babies and toddlers. I only manually focus for still life, landscapes, and macro. Plus, you'll want the ability to meter!

The D80 is a good compromise between the entry level ones and the new D90.
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Postby laurab007 » Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:57 pm

One reason I'm upgrading my D60 is b/c of the auto-lens issue. It really limits the lenses you can use. You have to buy more expensive lenses that have motors in them.

I'd take a used D80. :D
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Postby scases » Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:28 pm

Dh got me the D3000 in March. I love it and it does everything I need. I wanted something to learn with. The camera has an auto focus that I primarily use, but it also has a guide feature that let you set specific settings by asking about the type of object you are taking a picture of or if you want to blur the back ground.
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